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	<title>Comments on: As Christians Do We Or Should We Close Our Eyes When Praying?</title>
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		<title>By: Ardorpes</title>
		<link>http://www.ardorpes.com/2008/05/07/as-christians-do-we-or-should-we-close-our-eyes-when-praying/comment-page-1/#comment-776</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardorpes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think its a good thing to teach your kids when their young, to prevent them from looking round and mucking about and treat it as a serious thing when praying to God. When they grow up a bit and mature, then you could let them know.. haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think its a good thing to teach your kids when their young, to prevent them from looking round and mucking about and treat it as a serious thing when praying to God. When they grow up a bit and mature, then you could let them know.. haha</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny that I&#039;ve been brought up closing my eyes in prayer. And even though I haven&#039;t felt that you had to close your eyes for God to hear you. But I&#039;ve always done it. Today as i was praying i was trying to think where in the Bible it says anything about closing your eyes to pray. I couldn&#039;t think of one, and then looked up this site and searched the internet, which confirmed my thoughts. I can&#039;t even find an account of anyone closing their eyes to pray. So why on earth and I trying to force my child to learn to close their eyes to pray. Mmm. Maybe a change is in the pipeline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny that I&#8217;ve been brought up closing my eyes in prayer. And even though I haven&#8217;t felt that you had to close your eyes for God to hear you. But I&#8217;ve always done it. Today as i was praying i was trying to think where in the Bible it says anything about closing your eyes to pray. I couldn&#8217;t think of one, and then looked up this site and searched the internet, which confirmed my thoughts. I can&#8217;t even find an account of anyone closing their eyes to pray. So why on earth and I trying to force my child to learn to close their eyes to pray. Mmm. Maybe a change is in the pipeline.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 17:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Faith cometh by hearing&quot; and seeing is contrary to faith.  Doubt is a by-product of what we see. Just a thought. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Faith cometh by hearing&#8221; and seeing is contrary to faith.  Doubt is a by-product of what we see. Just a thought. :)</p>
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		<title>By: hayesy</title>
		<link>http://www.ardorpes.com/2008/05/07/as-christians-do-we-or-should-we-close-our-eyes-when-praying/comment-page-1/#comment-443</link>
		<dc:creator>hayesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But pages 161-163 talk about &lt;b&gt;where&lt;/b&gt;&quot;
Where = part of how.

Completely on-topic. Not that there&#039;s anything wrong with going off topic, right?

How&#039;s Don&#039;t Waste Your Life going?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But pages 161-163 talk about <b>where</b>&#8221;<br />
Where = part of how.</p>
<p>Completely on-topic. Not that there&#8217;s anything wrong with going off topic, right?</p>
<p>How&#8217;s Don&#8217;t Waste Your Life going?</p>
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		<title>By: vk</title>
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		<dc:creator>vk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 05:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea, well your going off topic :P
My post was more how to pray.. Why we pray is another huge topic altogether :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea, well your going off topic :P<br />
My post was more how to pray.. Why we pray is another huge topic altogether :)</p>
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		<title>By: hayesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 05:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those chapters are on exactly that: why we should pray. But pages 161-163 talk about &lt;b&gt;where&lt;/b&gt;.
Just interesting for how seriously Piper takes it. We should learn from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those chapters are on exactly that: why we should pray. But pages 161-163 talk about <b>where</b>.<br />
Just interesting for how seriously Piper takes it. We should learn from him.</p>
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		<title>By: VK</title>
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		<dc:creator>VK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 03:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dave told me about a place in the bible about bowing the heads.

Luke 18:9-14
 9To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable: 10&quot;Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood up and prayed about[a] himself: &#039;God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.&#039;

 13&quot;But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, &#039;God, have mercy on me, a sinner.&#039;

 14&quot;I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.&quot;

something to think about..

haysey i read the pages but i didnt see how it was relevant to closing your eyes and bowing the head, more explaining why we pray etc.. (correct me if im wrong??)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dave told me about a place in the bible about bowing the heads.</p>
<p>Luke 18:9-14<br />
 9To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable: 10&#8243;Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11The Pharisee stood up and prayed about[a] himself: &#8216;God, I thank you that I am not like other men—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.&#8217;</p>
<p> 13&#8243;But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, &#8216;God, have mercy on me, a sinner.&#8217;</p>
<p> 14&#8243;I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.&#8221;</p>
<p>something to think about..</p>
<p>haysey i read the pages but i didnt see how it was relevant to closing your eyes and bowing the head, more explaining why we pray etc.. (correct me if im wrong??)</p>
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		<title>By: jpj</title>
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		<dc:creator>jpj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the typical Christian prayer posture (eye&#039;s closed or head bowed or hands together) borrowed concepts of paganism?

Eg: Has the pagan practise of &lt;i&gt;&#039;symbols, gestures, and positions are required for the gods to hear us&#039;&lt;/i&gt; influenced Christian prayer?

Haven&#039;t looked into these questions at all - just throwing it out there. Also haven&#039;t had a chance to read the Piper except so maybe he already addresses this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the typical Christian prayer posture (eye&#8217;s closed or head bowed or hands together) borrowed concepts of paganism?</p>
<p>Eg: Has the pagan practise of <i>&#8216;symbols, gestures, and positions are required for the gods to hear us&#8217;</i> influenced Christian prayer?</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t looked into these questions at all &#8211; just throwing it out there. Also haven&#8217;t had a chance to read the Piper except so maybe he already addresses this</p>
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		<title>By: hayesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 02:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff! I agree.
I wonder... do you have to pray out loud? I can&#039;t think of any reason why you would, but for some reason I have this question, which makes me think I must have come across something suggesting that.... hrmmm

Check out chapter 10 (and 9 too, if you&#039;re keen) of John Piper&#039;s book When I Don&#039;t Desire God. (Get it as a pdf &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.desiringgod.org/media/pdf/books_bwdd/bwdd_all.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;)
Its easy to read (and free), but if you &lt;b&gt;really&lt;/b&gt; can&#039;t be bothered, just check out pages 161-163 (of the book, not of the pdf)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff! I agree.<br />
I wonder&#8230; do you have to pray out loud? I can&#8217;t think of any reason why you would, but for some reason I have this question, which makes me think I must have come across something suggesting that&#8230;. hrmmm</p>
<p>Check out chapter 10 (and 9 too, if you&#8217;re keen) of John Piper&#8217;s book When I Don&#8217;t Desire God. (Get it as a pdf <a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/media/pdf/books_bwdd/bwdd_all.pdf" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.desiringgod.org/media/pdf/books_bwdd/bwdd_all.pdf?referer=');">here</a>)<br />
Its easy to read (and free), but if you <b>really</b> can&#8217;t be bothered, just check out pages 161-163 (of the book, not of the pdf)</p>
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